thoughts on the passing of Pinnock and Schaeffer on The Church before the Watching World

Justin Taylor writes a very fair, balanced obituary for theologian Clark H. Pinnock. He closes with these words:

The Bible encourages us to view those who have gone before us as examples, both positively and negatively—with virtues to imitate and vices to shun. Clark Pinnock gives us the opportunity to do both.

Click here to read the whole piece.

Ray Ortland posted this great quote a few days ago:

If we stress the love of God without the holiness of God, it turns out only to be compromise.  But if we stress the holiness of God without the love of God, we practice something that is hard and lacks beauty.  And it is important to show forth beauty before a lost world and a lost generation.  All too often young people have not been wrong in saying that the church is ugly.  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ we are called upon to show to a watching world and to our own young people that the church is something beautiful.

Several years ago I wrestled with the question of what was wrong with much of the church that stood for purity.  I came to the conclusion that in the flesh we can stress purity without love or we can stress the love of God without purity, but that in the flesh we cannot stress both simultaneously.  In order to exhibit both simultaneously, we must look moment by moment to the work of Christ, to the work of the Holy Spirit.  Spirituality begins to have real meaning in our moment-by-moment lives as we begin to exhibit simultaneously the holiness of God and the love of God. -Francis A. Schaeffer, The Church before the Watching World

For those who do not read his blog already, I commend it to you. There is no other place on the internet that challenges my heart more than his blog. Click here to take a look.

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    • Tracy
    • August 19th, 2010

    “Some see Justin Taylor’s obit comment, “The Bible encourages us to view those who have gone before us as examples, both positively and negatively—with virtues to imitate and vices to shun. Clark Pinnock gives us the opportunity to do both.” fair and balanced, while others recognize it for the back handed slap in the face it is.

    What was Pinnock’s “vice” that many think should be shunned? That he wrote against Calvinism which detests “open theism” because Calvinism states God predestined some people to hell and others to heaven instead of rightly understanding that what was “predestined” was the WAY in which men could be saved.

    The article goes on to say, “Even as Pinnock sought to be faithful, in many respects the “later Pinnock” devoted much of his considerable talent and energy to convincing God’s people to embrace views of God and his ways that are contrary to God’s revelation.”

    What the writer is saying here is Pinnock’s work was contrary to Calvinist doctrine.”

  1. Tracy, I would disagree that Tyler is hanging pinnock out to dry over an “ism.” What tyler takes issue with is that pinnock, “devoted much of his considerable talent and energy to convincing God’s people to embrace views of God and his ways that are contrary to God’s revelation.” not calvins doctrine. The issue with pinnock is not his agreement with Calvinism or any other “ism” for that matter but instead how pinnock handled the word of God; was pinnock faithful to the text. I would agree with tyler that in regard to salvation and how one is saved he was unfaithful to what God has communicated to us in the bible.

    Also, Thank you for your faith reading of this blog and your active debate with us. I so enjoy our dialog!
    -Russ

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